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Kermit,

But no, Alice and Reaver deserve to suffer over a decision they made almost a decade ago when she was still a teenager.
I guess they should have foreseen people like Enth, Blu and Dag coming into the fold several years down the line, huh?
Did I deserve to get doxxed by Nevada I wonder?
That seems to be the way you've been working through this. If someone can find it, even when motivated by false assumptions, you deserve it.

You’re starting to get it. Alice2 does deserve to suffer the consequences of a bad call. They were not unearned; she was a high-profile target and failed to change her email. Negligence costs you.
She made enemies, was unapologetically brash, and had upset a group of people sufficiently that they made an appalling call in response to the equally appalling manner they were treated.
And yes, her ‘friend’ Reaver is also paying for it. I’m not being facetious here; I’m not quite sold on this person’s involvement. But that’s besides the point.
Did you deserve being doxed by Nevada? If you treated him the same way you’ve treated me in these correspondences, I’d say yes.

I find it very telling that you and Alice2 think you can be so tactless with others and not suffer any consequences.
Among the things it could indicate, it’s readily apparent that you two surround yourselves with people that are more-or-less of the same mind. No criticism there, that’s fine. It’s comfy, isn’t it?
Maybe it’s just been a good while since someone came around that had a difference of opinion or disposition. Look at how many times I’ve had to correct you and Fred.
‘Anya, Yui, daggy are justified in their actions.’ ‘Doxing is acceptable’. ‘Alice2 should suffer.’ A radical assumes the extremist out of anyone that isn’t on their side.

But let me remind you that there are, in fact, people that are less patient, less considerate, less tolerant, and less scrupulous than you. They don’t value or believe in the same things you hold dear.
Taking this into consideration, could one reasonably be so audacious and not expect some sort of blowback? From people associated with /b/, of all places?
By saying that, I mean to implicate people like Nevada and Jack: those that truly do not care. Not people like Yui, Anya, and daggy. All things considered, they’re decent, reasonable, and fallible people.
Unfortunately, they were driven to do an indecent, unreasonable act. The commonality they share is how they were treated by Alice2.

It’s astonishing to see how needless cruelty spreads and corrupts, making everyone lesser than they were in a very fundamental sense. But I won’t bore you with my musings.

Now then, by showing me these screens, you sought out to prove to me that Yui, Anya, and daggy had no basis for a grievance against Alice2, is that right?
If you don’t mind, I’m not going to address Rory; I have had zero contact with him and don’t know him very much at all.
I read through the screens you provided me, and you make a strong argument, in both cases, presenting nothing but fact.
I’m with you on those points.

Had Anya been seeking revenge against Alice2 over an incorrect assumption that she doxed Mako, Anya would have been clearly in the wrong.
Similarly, had Yui been seeking revenge against Alice2 over a misattributed anti-transgender campaign, Yui would have been clearly in the wrong.

However, are you willing to consider the very likely possibility that this animosity towards Alice2 had been bred from more than one incident?
I think this is a likelier scenario, since I’ve heard about other apparent sleights on the part of Alice2 from both Anya and Yui. There are likely more that I haven’t heard of, yet.
I’m willing to investigate, provided that everyone is on board with the idea of clearing this up. That includes you, Alice2, Anya, and Yui.
So, although your evidence is compelling, I’m afraid it isn’t sufficient grounds to completely invalidate Anya and Yui’s feelings.

Throughout all of this, not even in your semi-formal logical frame-worked argument, did you even come close to explaining why you think Alice owes ANYONE an apology.

Again, I never said that I think Alice2 owes anyone an apology. I think it’s too late for that. No, I’m of the mind that distance and indifference is the optimal route to take.
We shouldn’t be so conceited as to think that anyone involved deserves a clean, tidy resolution. It likely won’t happen anyway, considering the circumstances.
This dialogue between you, me, and Fred?
It started because the two of you had issue with my assertion that ‘Alice2 deserves the doxing.’ Which, I think you and Fred are starting to understand, but not exactly happy with.

That’s okay. It’s an opinion, and you don’t have to agree or even care about it.


-2B

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