Alice2,
This is what you come at me with now? Logical fallacies? Running out of cogent points?
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don’t know just how dishonest you’re being.
Ignorant though you may be, you’re certainly not intentionally lying. At least, I hope not.
Let’s examine your list:
01.) Fair enough. Now, provide proof that they came under harm, that the threat was significant enough to warrant relocation, or even proof of said relocation.
You did offer beforehand, afterall. You insist that I pass judgment? Fine. Convince me.
Also, congratulations. You’re just as guilty for whatever crime you perceive Anya and Mako of doing.
I didn’t know the personal details of the family involved. For someone that just exhausted her resources in relocating them, you’re STILL awfully, awfully reckless with their info.
02.) Yeah, it’s 4chan. Still stand by what I meant.
And no, not what you’re strawmaning me for, but for indicating that 4chan is edgy and fanciful.
You’ve shown me one incident of edginess that proved to be true. One out of how many such posts?
Though, I’d love to see some real evidence of Jack’s attempts on your life. More than screenshotted threats.
Cherry picking data if I’ve ever seen it. Let’s move on.
03.) Final strawman. Never said I was absolutely free of it. My moral obligation to those four people lies in the friendship we share, not in server politics.
And I've fulfilled it; I’ve spoken to each of them about it. Daggy, Yui, and Anya apologized to you, didn’t they?
Now, as far as a server-related punishment is concerned, I won’t do it. Ignoring other factors, it occurred outside of the server. I know my place as admin. You should know yours.
Perhaps in your eyes, that’s inadequate. Makes me the bad guy for letting this evil come to pass. Don’t care. You’re entitled to think what you want. I think you’re evil for wanting to control people.
But this brings me to something I’ve been mulling over the past few days. I do love our little talks, Alice2.
Apart from being good practice in identifying fallacious arguments, it affords me the opportunity to examine my own beliefs and those of others.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this whole ordeal is fueled by a desire for punishment for those who’ve committed these crimes, correct?
Justice, and all of that? For the family hurt, etc.
If that is true, then why haven’t the proper authorities been notified yet? Have you paid a visit to your nearest precinct to file a report?
Because, apparently there was a VERY real threat to personal safety; so much that you had to pull out all the stops to relocate a family. Children are purportedly involved.
I think that warrants escalation of the situation, don’t you? A run through a fairer justice system.
You might be able to make a compelling case for cyberstalking, provided you tell the truth. Those are the people worth convincing, not some sourpuss android on the Internet.
But short of doing that, all that you’re really accomplishing is trying to impose your personal ethics on others, acting as judge in the kangaroo court known as anekichat.
Virtue-signaling in its rawest form. Telling me how morally bankrupt I am for not punishing those four, telling me they’re despicable while doing absolutely nothing constructive on your own.
Earlier, you hinted that doing the ‘right’ thing is difficult. It most certainly is. Arguing through email to a villain, surrounding yourself with people that parrot your self-righteousness…much easier.
I’m not quite sure why you haven’t done so yet, getting a more sophisticated justice system involved. I could see several reasons why you wouldn’t. I can understand why you wouldn’t.
Until that happens, though, I’m sorry. Dismissing your self-righteous bullshit.
I will not oblige your request of punishing Anya, Mako, Yui, and daggy for what they did. End of story.
-2B
P.S. You can continue to try to convince me, I’m willing to entertain compelling evidence. Admittedly, I feel silly requesting proof of relocation, but…well, you offered.
Besides, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, remember? I learned that one from you.