Wow 2B. You really got me. This utterly smashes everything I had to say, every point I made.
*adjusts her glasses*
Oh no, wait, that's my reply.
Your arguments were garbage!

Since I'm talking to a robot that pretends to walk like a human, let's go with some simplified logic:
1. No real people were hurt, so it's fine'
2. It's 4chan, so it's fine
3. Because I didn't do it, my hands are clean

Let's deal with these in order:

1. No real people were hurt
Let's put myself and Reaver out of it for a second, and just focus on people entirely unrelated to the issue, and look at the actual public disclosures here:
▒▒▒▒▒▒ is ▒▒▒▒▒▒ dads name: ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒
▒▒▒▒▒▒ is ▒▒▒▒▒▒ moms name: ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒
Selling pokemon cards is what his cousin does: https://i.imgur.com/rBcxsCa.png
Reference to his dads job: https://i.imgur.com/tumJeeF.png
Reference to his dads job: https://i.imgur.com/4GArNDt.png
▒▒▒▒▒▒ is his parents last name: ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒

Oh look! Four people here had their information leaked completely independent of anyone involved with ANY community. So, right off the bat, you are obviously wrong and in bad faith. Intellectually dishonest even.

Battin' a thousand here 2B, let's see how you do with:
2. It's 4chan, so it's fine

Okay, let's ignore the fact that I've provided plenty of evidence that people want to murder me, that Nevada ran an entire thread helping people both try to dox me and decide how to murder me. Let's even ignore how Jack has literally attempted, in the past, to attack Alice0, me, Reaver, you name it.

 Let's go with actual evidence, shall we?
https://nypost.com/2014/11/06/man-arrested-after-photos-of-girlfriends-murder-posted-online/

What, the New York Post not sufficient for you?
That's fair, after all, it's surely biased. How about NBC news?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/4chan-murder-suspect-david-kalac-surrenders-police-n241806

Yeah, turns out words don't stop at the door, and once you get peoples kids mixed up in it, it kinda changes. Intellectually dishonest again.

3. Because I didn't do it, my hands are clean
hahahahahah

No, I'm not even going to dignify this with an answer. You want to play community leader? That comes with responsibility. Responsibility Louise and Jill both owned up to. You? The person who actually is supposed to wield the hard power? You ain't doin' it. So it's on you.


Now let's go into extra innings:

Daggy:
"But because it doesn't serve your argument well in this case, we conveniently forget about it, don't we?
Intellectual dishonesty comes to mind. A favorite phrase of yours to sling about."
Blame shifting, assertions without evidence, and my favorite, an utter lack of regard for what I actually said!

Blu:
"They're not going to apologize to a family they think fictitious. Same deal with Anya.
So if that's what you want, you need to convince them. Don't ask me how to go about it, that's your task.
I'm not the one making bold claims here."

This is literally insane. We're talking about a person who was actually doxxed: if you don't believe they exist, I mean, I don't know what to tell you. The fact of the matter is this person clearly exists, otherwise we wouldn't be talking. Feels like I'm on crazy pills whenever it comes to you, sourpuss.

Oh yeah, and again, your community, your people, your responsibility.

Enth:
Exactly. Providence. Thus, your responsibility. Now tell me what evidence you want dear.
I've asked twice now and gotten no answer.

And way to victim blame! Tell me again about how I deserved it cuz of how I was dressed.
No, the people at fault are the people doxxing without any actual proof that they are doxxing the right person. You can't simply ASSERT that someone else is at fault.

Oh, and again, I just listed three people who had nothing to do with anything that were materially harmed by having their doxx spread. And we've got three people who need to give apologies. Imagine that.

And that's what it really comes down to, at the end of the day. Twice I've said I'll apologize for whatever needs to be apologized to, despite you and Enth both stating I would not. Yet when I ask exactly what I should be apologizing so I can actually, you know, do it and then in turn resolve this whole charade, I get nothing but intellectual dishonesty, arguments that sound more like they came from a rich white movie producer than someone who professes to have the best interests of anyone in mind, and a whole lot of rhetoric that doesn't make sense.

So let me say it quite clearly: If you don't believe that someone being doxxed is a harm to them, you are insane. If you don't believe that people who have been doxxed by your own people are real people, you are delusional. And if you don't believe that someone who has been harmed deserves, at the least, an apology....you are literally less moral than someone who thinks it is okay to dox those people in public.

Cuz at least Daggy apologized.

- Alice

P.S. Nah. There's a right and there's a wrong. And fucking peoples lives up? That's wrong.
Your mind may be concluded, but that merely means you are the more deluded: allowing shit like this to go unpunished shows exactly what your opinion on doxxing is. Fine, as long as the people doing it are your friends.