First Part
Well 2B, whatever conclusions you come to yourself regarding earned consequences and accountability and stuff?
You'll never have to worry about that kinda shit from me or Alice. It's a line we've pledged never to cross regardless of the circumstances.
After all, despite Nevada having doxxed me in TYF and threatening to E-mail my father falsely accusing me of distributing child pornography ( https://i.imgur.com/WJAwj5P.png )
The most I had ever planned on doing to him was sending a message to his parents informing them of what their son was doing.
Never planned anything cruel, never planned on spreading his own dox around. And thankfully it never had to come to even that last push.
The only request I have of you concerning them is that you consider their removal if they step over that line again.
And not just this current issue concerning Alice either. Doxxers make for very poor bedfellows.
Second Part
I understand where you're coming from. And I'm well aware that Alice isn't perfect, nobody is.
If you had mentioned Okuu perhaps, I would have conceded a notion that Alice had wronged someone in the past.
But as for Kaen and Mio, I don't take the word of liars into high consideration. As with Grey, I was actually there for the whole thing to unfold and I know him well enough to remark on what a piece of shit he was.
And with Lily, she never rumiated on anything that bad to begin with, and she's still around anyway.
For Muon? I simply never knew him or his circumstances well enough. But I know Alice well enough to believe she'd never at least intentionally hurt him.
As for owning the past, I'd like to believe we do. There is a reason we keep a record of so many logs. It's not just for the sake of other people, but for our own introspection.
To look back and consider if our decisions were wise or if we were just.
For instance, I wasn't the best person at the start of 2011. There are plenty of people who can attest to that. I had an awful reputation. But despite all that, I've kept my name.
I know Alice has regrets too, who doesn't? But we own them as our own.
As for the talk between the two of you, I hope it goes as well as ours has. (Without the rocky start maybe)
Third Part
When I discuss victim blaming and victim responsibility, I do so in their legally defined terms.
As it stands by law, Victims aren't held to blame for their own victimization. You could argue in the terms of a provocation defense, but even that only serves to mitigate the punishment the perpetrator might receive.
And even then, that argument is under heavy debate. With very good reason.
And as I've hopefully demonstrated to you earlier, I don't believe Alice provoked them enough to warrant the actions they took.
Not only that, but their previously stated reasons for doing so have been shown to be based on faulty assumptions.
We need to hold people to a higher standard, especially when the consequences can be dire.
I believe the moment we start holding victims to account for their own victimization, we open a door that should remain closed.
After all, we have current examples of what that can lead to in the extreme. Honor killings for raped women, etc.
Precipitation? That's fair enough.
Responsibility? That's a whole other can of worms.
Furthermore, I'm glad you've done the research. I can't say I know many people that pay it much mind.
Final Part
Thank you, 2B.
I wouldn't ask or expect anything more.
I'll leave it to you and Alice to work these things out. Maybe she can argue about the burden of responsibility better than I can.
But at the very least I'm glad you're thinking about it. The world would benefit from more people with that sort of attitude.
Happy Easter to you too.
(Also If this whole thing was an April Fools joke I'm gonna be so pissed)