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Kermit,

------'Ta(l)king it out' & Direct Statements------

I appreciate that, Kermit. But I’m still unresolved as to whether I deserved it or not.
Maybe I’m too severe on my own accountability and as a consequence I’m too severe on others for their own.
That’s not something for us to discuss and get to the bottom of. That’s for me to ruminate on.
Thanks to our conversation, I have new information to help me reevaluate on a personal level.

Concerning those three…well, there isn’t much else to be said.
I’m glad that daggy and Alice2 are no longer in contact, and that it was a mutual agreement. It really is for the best.
As far as Yui and Anya/Mako are involved, there’s no choice but to let them be with their terrible little selves.
I can’t control what they say or do outside of my Discord server, but in? You don’t have to worry about any conspiracy there.

And of course, I’m willing to approach them on personal grounds, if that is requested.


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I was aware of their backgrounds and have taken them into consideration; I’m not putting them beyond the ability to do shameful things.
It’s only the same repeat grievance that I’ve heard which is alarming. And honestly, it really is hard to delineate and distribute fault here.
I’m sure that some of that resentment towards Alice2 was fueled by their invalid emotions based off of faulty presuppositions. But I can’t dismiss it all.
Simply put, I knew some of those people. And there was more to them than irrationality and dishonesty. But they’re no longer around, so it doesn’t matter.

You know, considering the ideological tenets anekichat holds, of owning your past, I don’t doubt that Alice2 has examined and re-examined her past treatment of others.
Has it been enough though? I’d hate to make it seem as if Alice2 has to answer to me, because I hate impinging on the sovereignty of others. But I still have my doubts.

Time will tell, I suppose. As will a little talk with the woman herself.


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Thank you.


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To clarify, I don’t think that my victim blaming was driven by BJW. I’m well-aware of and accept that tragedy befalls even the innocent, and that sometimes the bad guys get away with their deeds.
Not to say that your assertion that BJW drives victim blaming behavior in some individuals is incorrect; that’s exactly what was demonstrated in Dalbert, 2009 and Lerner & Miller, 1978.
But the paper you linked me to states that it may be moral values (i.e. individualizing values and binding values) that reflects the 'truer’ propensity to blame the victim.
That was the take-home message of the paper. Not that victim blaming behavior was driven by a failure to empathize or a fear response.

And that’s what I’m suspecting is the case here. It’s a question of difference in moral values. The paper clearly outlines that people that place more emphasis on binding values tend to be conservative.
These days, I certainly do consider myself a moderate. I don’t agree with a lot of the ‘progressive’ values being pushed over the last two decades or so.
I’m particularly interested in seeing what Duarte 2009 and Haslam 2016 has to say on the matters of accountability. ‘…society is on a slippery slope towards low accountability and victim culture.’ Resonant.
This ties back to when you pointed out the second sentence on Wikipedia about victim blaming, that victimology seeks to mitigate the perception of victims as responsible…I was dumbfounded.

It suggests that one cannot even posit the idea that victims share PARTIAL responsibility in the matter. And that’s evidence of the disproportional amount of representation of liberal values in the field.
I’m really glad we had this conversation, Kermit. Because it opened up all sorts of avenues of investigation. I don’t know how you feel after our interactions, but I learned a fair amount.

Now then, about that apology to Alice2. I’ll draft one this week.
I can apologize for asserting that she deserved it. It was too harsh of wording and unfair of me.
That being said though, I cannot apologize for holding the belief that she is, in some form, partially responsible for it. I’m not willing to cede that; it would be disingenuous to do so.
But I can apologize for saying the wrong thing, and for perhaps hurting her feelings as a consequence.

Happy Easter.

-2B


P.S. April Fools.

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